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31 October 2010 @ 09:22 am
WFC 2010: The Moral Distance Between the Author and the Work  
I appeared on the panel "The Moral Distance Between the Author and the Work" yesterday afternoon at the World Fantasy Convention in Columbus, along with Eric Flint, Nancy Kress, Paul Witcover, Kathryn Cramer, and Jack Skillingstead.

Minutes before we were to begin, I forced my Flip camcorder on Andy Duncan, who was kind enough to record the whole thing. The room was packed, with several hundred people present, and the discussion grew so lively near the end that we almost failed to yield the room.

Here's how the panel was described in the Pocket Program:

What do we make of good art by bad people, or at least people of whom we disapprove? Richard Wagner was a particularly vile anti-Semite, but he still wrote "Kill Da Wabbit!" and other great music. Should we listen? The official Nazi film industry made one very good fantasy film (BARON MUNCHAUSEN, to which the Terry Gilliam version owes a good deal). Should we watch this? What about an author who is a convicted child molester? Should we read his novel? CAN we read it for itself? Is it possible to truly experience any form of art as a thing until itself, rather than the product of its creator?


The whole thing is embedded below.







 
 
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Niall Harrison[info]coalescent on October 31st, 2010 04:41 pm (UTC)
If you're taking requests, I'd love to see the WFA judges' panel scheduled for later today...
scottedelman: zombie[info]scottedelman on November 1st, 2010 01:10 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately, I hit the road immediately after the banquet. Sorry!
Niall Harrison[info]coalescent on November 2nd, 2010 10:33 pm (UTC)
Ah well, I was just being greedy, really. :-)
scottedelman[info]scottedelman on November 2nd, 2010 11:34 pm (UTC)
I'd intended to record the award ceremonies, but our table, alas, proved to be too far away.
Julie Andrews[info]julieandrews on November 1st, 2010 02:01 am (UTC)
Thanks for posting this. And thanks to the cameraperson!

What a bombshell dropped in the last 2 minutes!

I wish more panels were recorded like this.
scottedelman: BuhZurk[info]scottedelman on November 1st, 2010 01:14 pm (UTC)
Yes, I do wish we'd gone there earlier. BTW, some people thought it was a set-up, that I'd known all along Eric was responsible. Not true! I had no memory of which author and which editor.
Allochthon[info]allochthon on November 5th, 2010 08:34 pm (UTC)
I believe you.

It does /look/ like you were setting him up when watching the video. The way you start eying him right before you say "oh you did it."

It totally makes sense that you looked at Eric that way because he made some sound or something, but as an outside observer, I'm not at all surprised that people took it as a set-up.

Thanks for these videos!
scottedelman: Ultraman[info]scottedelman on November 5th, 2010 11:30 pm (UTC)
When I brought up the subject, I was actually looking out at Gordon van Gelder, assuming HE would provide the name of the author. I was stunned it was Flint, and though it wasn't picked up by the mic, I was chuckling during the next minutes over the serendipity of it all.
Deanne[info]deakat on November 2nd, 2010 03:50 am (UTC)
Thanks for this. I wanted to go to the panel, but feared for my blood pressure.
scottedelman: Astro Boy[info]scottedelman on November 2nd, 2010 03:14 pm (UTC)
And how did the video affect your blood pressure?
Deanne[info]deakat on November 2nd, 2010 03:18 pm (UTC)
The distance (both geographic and temporal) helped to moderate any ill effects, I believe. Also, the discussion was much milder than I had expected. Good job on heading a takeover by recent events off at the pass!
scottedelman[info]scottedelman on November 2nd, 2010 04:03 pm (UTC)
Thanks! Because that could have squeezed out all other discussion, didn't truly fit under the topic, and was really deserving of a panel all its own. Not at a WFC, though. Maybe next Worldcon.
[info]ladislaw on November 5th, 2010 12:51 am (UTC)
Thanks again for posting this. It started off somewhat . . . sloggishly, but improved mightily as the mic was passed around. (It did seem, for a good long time, that Jack was being snubbed.) The panel provided much to think about, both in my teaching and reading (not so much my writing, I think).

Be sure to brush all of Nancy's dandelion imagery from your shirt . . .

Bill
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